Association of Professional Rental Organizations (APRO)

Close More Sales Without Chasing More Leads

For businesses looking to grow sales, the instinct is often simple: generate more leads. But Joe Ignace, CEO of Velocity 360 CRM, argues that the bigger opportunity may be hiding in the leads businesses already have.

In this episode of The RTO Show Podcast, Pete Shau talks with Ignace about sales processes, follow-up and the numbers that can reveal where potential customers are falling through the cracks. Drawing on his background in sales and sales operations, Ignace explains why businesses should examine how effectively they handle existing opportunities before investing more money into generating new ones.

Close More Sales by Fixing the Follow-Up

According to Ignace, one of the biggest problems businesses face is a lack of visibility into what happens after a lead enters the sales process. Are salespeople responding quickly? Are quotes being followed up on? Are phone calls being returned? Without that information, an owner may know sales are underperforming without knowing why.

Ignace describes the sales funnel as a “leaky bucket.” Velocity 360’s data, he says, has shown situations where 80% of quotes received no follow-up call. His point for dealers is straightforward: adding more leads to a process with significant gaps simply creates more opportunities to lose potential sales.

Instead, businesses should understand their close rates, response rates, and lead sources. Ignace recommends tracking metrics such as the number of leads generated, close rate by product, average sales price, sales cycle length, and close rate by marketing source.

Speed also matters. Ignace emphasizes creating processes that respond to leads quickly and consistently, especially as consumers increasingly research and shop digitally. Automation can handle some of those early touches, allowing salespeople to focus their time on conversations, quotes, and closing.

The conversation also highlights the importance of matching marketing investment to lead quality. A large volume of low-intent leads may produce fewer sales than a smaller number of customers who have already demonstrated stronger buying intent.

For rent-to-own dealers, the takeaway is worth considering: before spending more to fill the top of the funnel, look closely at what is happening inside it. Better visibility and consistent follow-up may help businesses close more sales from opportunities they already paid to generate.


Catch the full episode of The RTO Show Podcast, proudly sponsored by APRO, on Spotify.


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Mike Lewis

Mike Lewis is a Premier Rental Purchase franchisee with multiple stores and currently serves as Vice President of Operations. With 33 years of experience in the rent-to-own industry, he has spent the past 20 years working closely with franchisee owners and previously spent 12 years in Corporate RTO, gaining a strong foundation in the business.

For the past five years, Mike has been sharing his knowledge by teaching managers and franchisees at the company’s Training Center.

Outside of work, he enjoys time with his family, kids, and grandkids, and appreciates the simple things in life – especially riding his Harley Davidson with the sun on his face. If you know, you know!

Lauren Talicska

Arona Corporation dba Arona Home Essentials

Lauren Talicska is an experienced multi-channel marketing specialist and the Vice President of Marketing & Communications at Arona Home Essentials. She has found her home in the RTO community, supporting stores in branding, growth, and increasing traffic.

You may recognize Lauren as a former RTO vendor, including her time as a partner for Nationwide RentDirect, or her previous participation in the APRO Vendor Advisory Committee. Lauren calls Columbus, Ohio, home and spends her workday crafting and executing marketing promotions from inception to realization, all while supporting the branding and social media needs of all the Arona stores in 12 states (plus Puerto Rico!).

Charles Smitherman

APRO

Charles Smitherman, JD, PhD, CAE, became CEO of APRO in 2023, bringing years of legal and executive experience in the rent-to-own industry. 

Prior to joining the association, Charles served as COO, General Counsel, and Vice President of PTS Financial Services, where he played an active role in the rent-to-own industry by representing his company through PTS’s club program offering with APRO member dealers. Charles is an attorney with two decades of experience across a wide variety of areas, including RTO, consumer financial services, antitrust, corporate law, mergers and acquisitions, litigation, franchise law, and privacy law. Following law school at the University of Georgia, Charles earned a Master of Legal Studies and PhD in Law from the University of Oxford in England.

Charles is credentialed as a Certified Association Executive (CAE) with the American Society of Association Executives, a Certified Franchise Executive (CFE) with the International Franchise Association, and a Certified Information Privacy Professional (CIPP/US) and Certified Information Privacy Manager (CIPM) through the International Association of Privacy Professionals. As APRO’s sixth CEO in its 45-year history, he brings a collaborative, member-focused approach to association leadership, emphasizing transparency, advocacy, and value creation. Outside of work, Charles is an active ultra runner and open water swimmer.

Mike Kays

Ashley Furniture Industries

As VP of Rental Sales for Ashley Furniture Industries, Mike thrives on building relationships with our RTO industry veterans, and helping businesses grow through new product, new marketing, and new supply chain options.

Mike works to leverage a wide breadth of relationships and influence, intimate knowledge of market trends, and unique knowledge of what RTO dealers need from a supplier to be successful.

The saying goes that a high tide raises all boats, and our goal is to leverage the world’s largest furniture manufacturer to drive the continued growth of the RTO industry and all the suppliers.

Mike Tissot

Countryside Rentals Inc., dba Rent-2-Own

Mike grew up in the rent-to-own industry under the guidance of his father, former APRO President and RTO legend Darrell Tissot. For nearly 25 years, Mike’s innovative leadership has helped expand the family business to more than 40 stores across Ohio and Kentucky while also shaping the industry as a whole.

He has served as President of the Ohio Rental Dealers Association, an APRO board member and Treasurer, and President and Treasurer of the TRIB Group. His contributions have earned him the APRO President’s Award of Excellence and the title of APRO Rental Dealer of the Year.

Outside of RTO, Mike enjoys time at the lake house or in Orange Beach, Alabama, with his girlfriend, Angela Strong McCool. A passionate Cincinnati Reds fan, he rarely misses a game, whether watching or listening alongside his parents. He also takes every opportunity to visit Arizona, where his daughter is currently attending Arizona State University.